With me, it was the other way around, and I have to admit that the movie, though good, lost a bit of its power because I didn't feel Alex as a character grew there, which he did do for me in the novel. The twenty-first chapter gives the novel the quality of genuine fiction, an art founded on the principle that human beings change. Do you come down on one side or another? My heart hurts just thinking about it. Ending / spoiler for A Clockwork Orange (1971), plus mistakes, quotes, trivia and more. Love both book and film; hate the 21st chapter. The book was difficult for me to get into, but I thought the film was very good. And that’s that.". Lots of things to think about. from Connecticut, USA is reading, Kelly A Egan @Khalil Clockwork Orange wasn't written by King, and she was referring to The Shining. I still catch my breath recalling the first time I saw it. When a fictional work fails to show change, when it merely indicates that human character is set, stony, unregenerable, then you are out of the field of the novel and into that of the fable or the allegory. Reading through the synopsis of the book made me feel like the last chapter was just his last-ditch attempt to make it a novel instead of a fable. In the book there was an extra chapter not included in the film because the amercian publication of the book … REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 23382 on r2-app-0d385b4c3ab8950bb at 2020-12-24 20:18:08.624801+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: PL. The book is partially written in a Russian-influenced argot called "Nadsat", which takes its name from the Russian suffix that is equivalent to '-teen' in English. [–]Spiro2003[S] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children), Holy shit dude yes!!! He definitely felt the repercussions of making it (not because of stupidity, as one might smugly suggest, but rather a different sensitivity than his own). The film is a visceral and blackly cynical satire. [–]jackaroojackson 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). Thanks for the article (because of just how faithfully the film is I think a comparison is very apt). The movie ending leaves the viewer with the message that there are corrupt and evil people/institutions in the world, and does not glorify them, but rather suggests that they need to be stopped. Burgess seemed to be going for a Crime and Punishment-type redemption, but I don't think he earned it. Same goes for the costumes which helps us understand that it's happening in future though it's obvious it's not so distant future which is worrying. The reason why the book is more violent - and that's good point - is because it is supposed to disgust us. Probably it has something to do with the allowance of one’s own imagination that a book affords. Alex might be naturally evil but in the end he's just a tool for governement's contest. Martin Scorsese Unsure He Can Recapture ‘The Irishman’ Spark for ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’, Soul review: a triumphant return to Pixar’s most ambitious storytelling, Cliffhanger: an alternative explosive action flick for the seasonal Die Hard fans - The exceptionally dumb-but-great film has all the snow, explosions and stunt work you ever wanted for Christmas – plus, Sylvester Stallone. The extra chapter just seems unauthentic and jarring and borderline cheesy... like being a psychopath is something you grow out of as you mature. I love the book. Anthony Burgess’ dismissal of the Stanley Kubrick adaptation of his novel A Clockwork Orange is one for the ages. And education they had had. He wrote The Clockwork orange in 1962. He's back to doing the same old stuff, as shown in the final scene, except it looks consensual, and everyone around him is clapping. The film plays the dance bit very well (the gang fight, etc...) right up until the rehab when the music stops. I might feel the same. Also, I have a hobby of reading detailed chapter-by-chapter synopses (plus character profiles, explanations of famous quotes and all that jazz) of classics and popular books I can't get into so that I at least get what's being said or what happens. Alex didn't just go along with ultraviolence, he reveled in it, and it'd take something powerful to turn him away from it. AP Names Anya Taylor-Joy Breakthrough Entertainer of 2020, Daft Punk releases new extended version of the Tron: Legacy soundtrack, Warner Bros. will release its 2023 movies in theaters first. In the end I want to approve of @Joshua Danton Boyd’s idea about the parable with Fight Club – I had same idea. Illustration of Mothra from Mythical Monsters:The Scariest Creatures From Legends, Books And Movies. According to Burgess, it was a jeu d'… Kubrick categorically was not celebrating violence and depravity, though he did succeed in winning considerable audience allegience to vicious little Alex, mainly by contrasting him with corrupt and apathetic bureaucrats around him: Alex was nasty and cruel, but at least he wasn't dead inside. […] My book was Kennedyan and accepted the notion of moral progress. I definitely don't buy that. BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME SETS. In this, however, Kubrick was no different than Burgess, who drew the same contrasts and also used narrator Alex's asides to pull the reader into his confidence. The author of the book Anthony Burgess has commented on the ending. [–]izzmond 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). I like the film because It was a trippy movie and has influenced many people to read the book, but If I wrote it, I'd hate thu movie too. One can go on about it being misinterpreted but ultimately that’s just subjectively justifying a piece of art one was affected by (same tactic as with the film‘s critics). I love the artistry of his adaptation but the content ultimately distracts my appreciation of the style. This teen gang drinks milk that’s laced with drugs, and then savagely assaults an elderly man, subsequently destroying the library books … - Endings, How to Shop for a Writer: the Holiday Edition, 27 Indie Bookstores to Support Online in 2021, LitReactor Staff Picks: The Best Books of 2020 - Part I, Manuel Marerro On Expat Press and Pushing the Indie Envelope, 10 Books on Writing and Creativity Every Author Should Ask for this Holiday Season, Nothing New Under the Mistletoe - 40 Versions of "A Christmas Carol" You Should Check Out, Storyville: Body, Mind, and Soul—Adding Depth to Your Stories, LitReactor Staff Picks: The Best Books of 2020 - Part III. Burgess himself admits to enjoying Alex’s prurient pleasures “by-proxy” in his critical (maybe hypocritical) forward to the book, and I think the manipulation of such urges are at the center of Kubrick’s production even as the irrational argument of freewill is given much lip service (irrational because there is even less evidence for the existence of freewill than there is evidence that violent films can adversely affect behavior). >!Twas the butler!<. @Josh - that's an interesting angle! It is maddening. I cannot read German. Even once the technique is proclaimed a success and Alex is released, we're not given any indication that he's truly grown and changed, but that he's not in control of his behavior. otherwise, I suppose that they are two different versions of the same story, and I far prefer Burgess' use of language (Russian propaganda mixed with babytalk) vs Kubrick's dance presentation. A Clockwork Orange is a dystopian satirical black comedy novel by English writer Anthony Burgess, published in 1962. The book’s ending… A Clockwork Orange isn't one of those books with a sympathetic narrator. Similarly, in the book, he attacks an innocent old man returning from the library. [–]TheShadyGuy 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Is it only that no words, however evocative, can ever pierce our comfort level the way an effectively directed scene of violence can? The message I get from the book's ending is that it placates the reader by sending the message that everything is going to all right and evil people change. Some do. Had Alex gotten something out of the conditioning and it inspired him to embrace a "straight life" in the end, my view would be like the film was endorsing protection at any cost. I loved the use of Singling in the Rain, and the stylized look of the movie. [–]isaacpriestley 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Tehmsnnnn 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I think that alex has become into his normal condition that he was before. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. This is not a movie meant for kids, unless they understand the important morals of the plot. It is set in a near-future society that has a youth subculture of extreme violence. For A Clockwork Orange in particular, I prefer the movie ending better (again, in theory, since I haven't read the book) for a couple of reasons. But I find it surprising that Burgess thinks the film is more indulgently depraved than his own novel when the most disturbing scene in the book doesn’t even appear in the movie. And me still only fifteen.' There are many smaller particulars in which the film and book differ – Alex’s weapon in the book is a razor, and in the film it’s a knife hidden within his cane; in the book he’s conditioned against all classical music, and in the film it’s only Beethoven’s Ninth; he volunteers for the Ludovico conditioning in the book and it’s assigned to him in the film; in the book he’s fifteen and in the film he’s a few years older; there is no mention of “Singin’ in the Rain” in Burgess’ novel. And how can the society turn upside down if it’s not organised. Other than that, the last (21st) chapter certainly changes the whole meaning of the book and movie; without it, ACO is a cautionary tale about the prevalence of violence in our society, but also that sometimes this violence can be necessary (after the conditioning, even if someone attacks him, Alex cannot defend himself), and of course the whole issue about whether or not a man who is good simply because he is forced to do so, is really good- without choice, we are not really humans, just more sophisticated machines. So I don’t think the book or the film is better – both have much to offer, different questions to answer. To leave a comment Login with Facebook or create a free account. More importantly, How can Alex forget? Ps: “he volunteers for the Ludovico conditioning in the book and it’s assigned to him in the film”. Will have to chew on it. So the original ending to the book ends like the movie, and yes, the idea is that he returns (or is going to return) to his old wicked … Unlike many films made these days, the violence … Who ever heard of a clockwork orange?’ Then I read a malenky bit out loud in a sort of very high preaching goloss: ‘—The attempt to impose upon man, a creature of growth and capable of sweetness, to ooze juicily at the last round the bearded lips of God, to attempt to impose, I say, laws and conditions appropriate to a mechanical creation, against this I raise my swordpen—‘. He went back to his old ways, but in a manner that is acceptable by the government and society. In fact, this is the only chapter where our protagonist-narrator experiences growth, or more profoundly, … The film, I am not sure about. from Massachsetts is reading, Book vs. Film vs. Mini Series: The Shining, Book Vs. Film Vs. Film: The Girls With The Dragon Tattoos, Everything You Need To Know About Philip Pullman’s ‘His Dark Materials’ Before The BBC Miniseries, 150 Years Later, ‘Little Women’ Is Still The Biggest Of Deals, Stephen King's 10 Best - Yes, Best! Because the main aim of the story is to warn - look, how our society could look like in few decades, think about it. So if someone says the story glorifies violence it’s because he’s scared of possibility that people would follow the footsteps of Alex – and then the story fulfilled its intention. I didn't like the gentling of the child rape and rolling the old drunk scenes, I think the film got vilified enough Kubrick might as well have gone balls-out. So by the end of the movie, when he's "cured" and it's hinted that he is going to return to his old ways, it would seem kind of odd and out of place that there would be a conclusion where suddenly he's grown and changed, because there's no indication throughout that he genuinely wants to change! Kubrick was right to cut the last chapter. I thought that was the case considering his last line in the movie was “I was cured alright”. …and then I felt the old tigers leap in me and then I leapt on these two young ptitsas. To each his/her own. It refuses to be erased, however, and for this the film version of the book … I read the book many times in my teens and twenties, and did not see the movie until adulthood- I love both versions, though the book wins by a nose. Oh it all makes sense now. Kubrick managed, through a masterful merging of imagery, narration and, perhaps most of all, Beethoven's transcendent music, to induce a mix of elation and revulsion like none I've ever experienced. But the most drastic disparity between A Clockwork Orange the film and the novel is that Kubrick’s film omits a (sort of) happy ending epilogue written by Burgess for the book. So if that’s the case, did he become like that after the suicide attempt or the was it the fact that Alex was really never cured and could never be cured in the first place?? Being raised in America I've been stuffed to the gills with happy endings and bullshit sell-out endings for decades. the main character is not very heroic, and is actually very dispicable. I didn’t feel like going out in streets and start to punch people when I finished reading the book or watching the film. (It's the second-worst last chapter in my reading experience, after the one in The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; in both cases, the depth and beauty of the chapters that lead up to the dud ending make the journey worthwhile.). They have two different endings. And that’s that. They have, to match and fit his needs, because they don't desire justice, they desire peace. I love the movie. Then she tests him, and his answers reveal the truth: That he is again showing the tendencies of a little monster. Even trashy bestsellers show people changing. In which case, this is the book … I saw the movie first, and its ending sparked an emotional response like few I've ever had to any work of art. While he was in the hospital, the government fiddled around inside his gulliver and reversed the Ludovico Treatment (and then tested him to make sure he was again a vicious little sociopath happily making jokes about rape and thinking that the best thing to do with eggs would be to smash them), and he was now free to be a monster in their service --just as his fellow droogies had used their thuggishness in the State's service when they joined the Police Force. A Clockwork Orange: Previously unseen ‘sequel’ to Anthony Burgess novel discovered. ‘I was cured all right,’ he says, and so the American book ends. The charisma of Malcolm McDowell and the playfulness of Kubrick’s style make it easy to find validation in it for sadistic and antisocial ideas and feelings (something that I know from personal experience). What was really wanted was a Nixonian book with no shred of optimism in it. In the novel, I felt that Alex was a smart lad, who just used his brains for the wrong kicks. First of all, there is no indication throughout the movie (and I presume the book) that Alex is interested in any genuine change. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. That is the real message of A Clockwork Orange. Kubrick and company’s artistry has given many people an excuse to justify and/or sympathize with its assaultive structure but I have a hard time singing its praises as a piece of social expression. So the original ending to the book ends like the movie, and yes, the idea is that he returns (or is going to return) to his old wicked ways. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE is an extremely intense movie. There is no hint of this change of intention in the twentieth chapter. Usually they will realize they went wrong and try to make up for it themselves, which means so much more than just behaving well because you'll puke everywhere if you don't. They seal the deal when Alex lets the Governor feed him. Alex, violent criminal that he is, passes through four stages - or, since he's a music lover, we might consider the book … Clearly the best? I usually prefer a book over a film but when it comes to A Clockwork Orange I'm just ambivalent. I never read the book because I got it on audiobook and the first thing I heard was Burgess lamenting the missing 21st chapter in previous additions. What is the worst performance to be nominated at the Oscars? Huh that makes sense actually. It would be easier for me to watch a film or read a book that stylized extreme violence if it wasn’t simultaneously trying to educate me on right and wrong. So he thinks that last chapter is needed. Yes, Burgess created this story and in that way it belongs to him, but he also sold the rights to Hollywood, and in that way it does not. Speak up in the comments! I enjoyed your conclusions, but do not believe that Clockwork Orange is any less qualified to be a novel if it does not have the 21st chapter. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Click 'spoiler' after posting something to give it a spoiler tag! Burgess believed that “the freedom to choose is the big human attribute,” This belief provides the central argument of A Clockwork Orange… The film made it easy for readers of the book to misunderstand what it was about, and the misunderstanding will pursue me until I die. But Burgess actually wrote an additional chapter and that is the one he prefers (if I remember correctly maybe the original editors didn’t like it). Casting MM was brilliant, and though his mad glee in the violence is palpable, it does nothing to glorify the violence he and his droogs indulge in. It's been a while, but I believe they un-did the procedure to score political points. Then the Governor comes in and makes it clear that, for political reasons, they should have each other's backs. The fall plus the government tinkering while he was out seemed to have fixed him though. One implication of the "happy" ending seems to be that Alex simply grew out of his sadistic, sociopathic ways: Droogs will be droogs. Clearly the best? a clockwork orange is the best book ever written because it breaks free of ordinary book structure. If only everyone could be so magnanimous, but the media bubble has to put everything in competition. When I first found out about the 21st chapter, I was already a huge fan of the book and movie as they are, and at first thought that much of the meaning was lost with the addition. It seems as if Kubrick’s deliberate contradictions and tendency to set the audience at unease make those authors uncomfortable, as do his liberal adaptations of their work. Perhaps that is the point. Because when Alex is in his hospital bed, a psychiatrist comes in and talks to him. Thanks, [–]C_Me 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). 2) The novel Main Theme. A Clockwork Orange ends on a controversial note, as it wildly differs from that of the original novel, which is similar to Kubrick's changes to Stephen King's The Shining. So the film ends too. But here’s what’s interesting about Burgess’ claim – in many ways, A Clockwork Orange the film is more palatable than the book. In the future, a sadistic gang leader is imprisoned and volunteers for a conduct-aversion experiment, but it doesn't go as planned. Mistakes that he made while he was making himself, as teens do. [–]nakedsamurai 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). The Witch is exactly the kind of horror movie I was looking for, Why The Muppet Christmas Carol is my favorite version, Paddington 2 is the Dark Knight of talking animal family movies. So therein lies the root of Burgess’ displeasure with Kubrick’s adaptation. I don't think there's anything glorifying in that. You've Had Your Time: Being the Second Part of the Confessions of Anthony Burgess is an amazing book. They can try to guide their audiences to infrences and understandings, but in the end, what people pull from their stories will always be personal and flavored by their own biases and reality. I can't say "what's better" (it might be dumb to compare those medias but that's point of the article, isn't it) because each has its merits. and join one of thousands of communities. Even though that was also because of the own language, and the way it dragged you into Alex's head, unpleasant as it may have been in there :). While the book has more space for a philosophy and psychological progress of characters, the film takes a hell of advantage of the audiovisuality which is quite important for the story. One I keep coming back to. They probably said it but it just went right over me. The title A Clockwork Orange is given no explanation in the film, but in the book Alex finds a manuscript in the home of the couple he assaults: Then I looked at its top sheet, and there was the name – A CLOCKWORK ORANGE – and I said: ‘That’s a fair gloopy title. Towards the end it also feels as if the author has lost his way a bit, too. "There's nothing wrong with my books", he said, "they're all right here.". The original American publication of A Clockwork Orange also excluded this chapter, in which Alex is growing out of his taste for violence and looking forward to a future with a wife and son, whom he does not want to turn out like Alex himself. I think this is one of the main reasons people tend to enjoy books over movies. I like Alex feeling tormented at the end, it leaves the question open. I'd never heard Burgess's claim that the final, tacked-on chapter was necessary to demonstrate the character growth intrinsic to a good novel, but I call BS on that. Alex narrates to us in an odd slang called "nadsat" as … Does anyone prefer the book without the happy ending chapter? However, now that I've grown up and kind of gone through my own Alex phase, I can say that the chapter only adds to the book, adds a message that the young will choose bad or good themselves, and rather than thrusting the choice upon them, we should let them come to their decisions on their own. This is Burgess most famous novel. But Alex in film is more older, he doesn't make us feel as much shocked as disgusted (though I just love Malcolm McDowell and the film had to go with older protagonist). 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