Since you have quite appropriately distinguished Irish Travellers from Roma in many places, does this information not preclude his name from appearing here? To the people saying that an individual celebrity stating they are Romany is not enough proof, I ask you, what is your ethnicity, and can you prove it? Television Debut 25 4. Roma are an ethnicity, a culture and a race of people who have existed in Europe and the Middle East for hundreds of years. http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=181345, Helen Mirren Gypsy? We use cookies and similar tools to enhance your shopping experience, to provide our services, understand how customers use our services so we can make improvements, and display ads. YUL BRYNNER. We've developed a few templates over the years here at JONJ. Documented proof...Let me tell you something, There aint no way one of my relatives is going to "document" they are Gypsy. I heard people say that the term "Romany" is used to name both tribes but "Romany" also is the name of the language.If I am wrong correct me. THE YUL BRYNNER COOKBOOK First Edition Gypsy Thai Swiss Russian More Cuisine VG. You betcha. I hope he may be added to the list too. But can we do the reverse? "Point out the contributions people of Romani descent have made to the world: Charlie Chaplin, Rita Hayworth, Michael Caine, Yul Brynner, Django Reinhardt, Carlos Montoya, Birelli Lagrene, Bob Hoskins, and according to some sources Picasso, Paul Bunyan, Mother Teresa and Ava Gardner, all qualify..." What sources?--Jbull 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC). No, but his is 1/8 black, and proud of his ancestry. There is also many more references (Including books)on his Romany Ancestry. Select Your Cookie Preferences. We owe the Roma people some respect: Imagine this page was called "list of jewish people". --Guzman ramirez 22:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC). October 19, 2008. http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Du-Ha/Gypsy-Americans.html http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/, http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft138.htm, http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/messagepost.cfm?postaction=reply&catid=40&threadid=13776&messid=82235&STARTPAGE=1&parentid=0&from=1, http://www.mtv.com/bands/b/branch_michelle/news_feature_100601/index.jhtml, Who keeps taking out Yul Brynner and Ava Gardner?, both are documented as being of Roma Descent, --Please post this documentation.--Jbull 20:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC), http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/culture.htm, Again you need to read the whole web page, http://www.curiousnotions.com/home/gazetteer/_rom.html, http://www.tvacres.com/ethnic_thailander.htm. They feel the need to belong to something. https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/yul-brynner-3242.php Roma encompass the Gitanos, Sintis and Kalderash. This excellent biography of Yul Brynner, written by his son Rock, is a must-read for all of the King's many fans. http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902806190, Sandro I'm erasing her. I am sorry that you can't except that many people don't fall into the Black & White, Light & Dark, This or That, fallacy. U Sjedinjenim Državama se pojavio u mnogim filmskim i kazališnim produkcijama. He has done a variety of roles in films and theatre in his career. The chances are that a young girl from midwest America who thinks she is a Gypsy and thinks that a long list of people (Bill Clinton, Britney Spears, Elvis Presley...) are also Gypsies, can only be white 8-), and I would add blonde!!!! Do you imagine Hitler on the list of famous Jewish people? >To add to the above Famous People who have voiced their Gypsy Ancestry done so to let people know they are of mixed ancestry and not 100% white or black and not 100% what they seem to be. Therefore they are of Roma descent They are not a fashion that you westerners can appropriate by wearing hippy clothes and bracelets. Are you going to try to tell her she is not Native American? http://www.raybuckland.com/, John Bunyan The section is not for people who are not pure-blooded Roma (I dont think such thing exists), it is for people who are simply NOT Roma at all- Like George Soros, or Ava Gardner, but have or may have Roma ancestors... --Burgas00 23:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC). Format: 12" LP (33 RPM). His acting career is associated with just two roles — the King of Siam (in the King and I) and Ramses II (in Ten Commandments). In his lifetime, … I also think many artists claim Roma ancestry to make themselves more interesting. And get one thing clear, there are people of mixed ancestry,is that so hard to believe? Imagine someone started adding random people into the article because "his great grandfather was supposedly half jewish". And Yul Brynner's son can argue it till he's blue in the face, Brynner was, indeed part Roma on his mother's side. Yul Brynner won a best actor Oscar for playing King Mongkut of Siam in the 1956 film version of the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I. It is in Paris that Brynnersang gypsy songs and playing the guitar in the Parisi… or White? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 56 8. Beyond his distinctive appearance and distinguished acting career was a life of intrigue and concocted tales surrounding his youth. "...(its main character, played by Freddy Prinze, claimed Romani descent himself)." And to quote Cassius80 "Famous Roma must be REAL Roma not people who claim (or of whom it is claimed) they have Gypsy ancestry." No doubt at some stage someone will add Christopher Lee although the only suggestion that he might be of Romani ancestry is that the name Lee is the most common English Romani name, but then again it is generally quite a common English name generally, some Romani in a restaraunt he was in once recognised him and claimed he might be Romani although maybe they didn't realise that his foreign looking appearance owes more to his mother coming an Italian aristocratic family than anything else. I apologize. Naimly, the father of Brynner's mother Marousia Dimitrievna Blagovidova was a Russian Jew and her mother was Russian Roma. Discover releases, reviews, track listings, recommendations, and more about Condition: Used. YUL BRYNNER The Gypsy And I VINYL LP Aliosha Dimitrievitch ROMANI Serge Camps. The usage could suggest a gypsy lifesstyle and not ethnicity. Besides this discussion, IP user: 199.245.163.1 User: Robbyfoxxx is repeatedly vandalising the discussion page. Roma people has been nominated to be improved on the Improvement Drive. It is claimed in many sources that Hitler had jewish origins. You tell me my opinions are similar to the NAZI'S? I have not expressed my point of view on this issue yet, and you are already attacking me. http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/volume119issue2_more.php?id=591_0_26_0_C According to her biography "http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/helen_mirren_biog.html she has "perhaps a splash of Gypsy blood". I think this whole page should be blanked out and redone from scratch... The sources state Roma ancestry YUL BRYNNER the gypsy and i. Label: VANGUARD 79256. Notes: corner ding, tear on corner. As for Yul Brynner, he encouraged reporters to think he was a gypsy or half-Japanese, half-French, or an orphaned Mongolian noble. I am confused as to how to get outside verification. When she settled down in New York City, she tried to start a singing career. Although this statement could be true for parts of Eastern and South East Europe aswell as the Iberian peninsula. I am unsure how to progress on this page because of the sheer number of questionable claims to Romani bloodlines. Tou want people to carry a ID card that says I am Roma to prove it? I once asked them how they met, my parents said they were on a bus and met each other trying to pick their pockets." In addition to his work as a director and performer, Brynner was an active photographer and wrote two books. "When the notable Roma academic, Professor Ian Hancock, wrote his most recent book, We are the Romani people he included at the end a list of politicians, film stars, artists and so on of Romany descent. They must be taken seriously as an ethnic group, and not be victimized by western ignorance and romanticism. Don't give me that one drop bullcrap, These people specifically stated they have Roma Heritage. It is claimed in many sources that Hitler had jewish origins. Vera (Borisovna) Bryner was the sister of Yul Brynner (who added a 2nd 'n' to the last name). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.83.177.138 (talk) 23:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC). Burgas00- Why erase? While Brynner was still young, their father left them under the care of their mother. http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/, Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira There seem to be a large number of people listed on this page that have dubious at best connections to possibly be Rom. We long knew it as he grew up traditional and lived for some time in the same camp as my aunt, but he has finally officially admitted it. The Yul Brynner Cookbook Foods Fit for the King and You 200 Dishes He Liked Best. We are talking about people here, not dogs!--Guzman ramirez 21:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC), You get the idea-mixed ethnicity, That is the only thing you have to criticize? One fairly common one is when we take a person with a Jewish sounding name, point out all the ways in which they appear Jewish, and then twist it around by pointing out they're not Jews. Price: US $28.99. A Treasury of Great Recipes Vincent Price & Mary Price First 1st Edition 1965. You act as if the world is Black and White.They are mixed Roma --Guzman ramirez 21:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC). He was best known for his portrayal of the King of Siam in the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I, for which he won two Tony Awards and an Academy Award for the film version; he played the role 4,625 times on stage. http://www.kimia-sains.com/articles/Romany, Eva and Zsa Zsa Gabor- They where on the list before I came began coming here. http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/timeofthegypsies.htm, http://www.webprincess.com/facab/apr98.htm, http://members.tassie.net.au/~rteirney/Bill_Blyth.html, http://www.travellersinleeds.co.uk/_travellers/boxing.html, http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/helen_mirren_biog.html, http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/volume119issue2_more.php?id=591_0_26_0_C, http://www.time.com/time/archive/printout/0,23657,776360,00.html, http://www.radoc.net:8088/RADOC-34-ROMANCE.htm, http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29504, http://www.stlouis.missouri.org/501c/gitana/page2D.html, http://www.imninalu.net/famousgypsies.htm, Hancock, Ian;We are the Romani People;University of Hertfordshire Press;2003, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, http://www.hollywood.com/celebs/fulldetail/id/1118607, http://www.wirehouse.com/bio.asp?t=a&SiteID=FairuzaBalk, http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/arts/004703.html, http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9017835?tocId=9017835, http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, http://www.kimia-sains.com/articles/Romany, http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/ReviewsSwing.html, http://www.kipaddotta.com/rita-hayworth.html, http://www.fmsound.net/NewReleases/Articles/Albert%20Lee/Albert%20Lee.html, http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=181345, http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Du-Ha/Gypsy-Americans.html, http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902806190, http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Spain/Andalucia/Sevilla-253763/Things_To_Do-Sevilla-Triana_District-R-1.html-, https://the-talks.com/interview/sir-michael-caine/, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Roma_people&oldid=919602622, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 4 October 2019, at 16:13. 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